Eh, neocons equate religion and science. No surprise there. Both can be tedious and boring, so it's understandable that those with a short attention span think they amount to the same thing. Quantum mechanics introduced in a simplified form sounds as crazy as anything religion can come up with.
But man-made global warming scientists are not taking things on faith. They are continuing to monitor and do research, create models, and search for evidence for and against. But MF wouldn't know of them or hear of them because they quietly publish rather boring results in science journals circulated among scientists.
To me it is appalling that so many identify democratic or independent-leaning democrat, since it demonstrates a huge failure on the part of conservatism when it cannot appeal to logical and methodical people. Appalling because it cannot then hold equal ground in any debate.
It is absolutely CRITICAL to have doubters and every scientist knows this. However, those doubters must then engage in legitimate and thorough research, not just make a fuss, sign petitions, and hate Al Gore.
1) He's using dinosaurs, an entire extinct superorder of animals, as an argument *against* the impact of climate change.
2) He's conflating the ozone layer depletion with greenhouse gasses. The *later* is due to burning fossil fuels. Ozone holes are due to CFCs and similar chemical compounds.
Tinsley, in your 80 hours of weekly research, try hitting Wikipedia some time.
3) A giant one-panel Sunday comic with *minimal* detail - I'm guessing this took 20 minutes tops. Maybe 30 with lettering.
Ducky is right, believing a 2000 year old story book is exactly the same as peer-reviewed studies.
Allow me to take Ducky's little metaphor here, and apply it to a different situation, to which I hope to emphasize how dumb it is.
"Bob and I have different ideas about buying groceries. I think we should get more vegetables and fresh baked goods, and he think the Giants are going to win the Superbowl this year."
Man, if Muir's not the biggest cynic in the world, laughing at his audience, his studio must smell of urine and despair, plus whatever the magazines he uses for research smell like by now.
OK, I know it's off topic, but did anyone see the Palin quote on the Doonesbury page at Slate? She's got to be kidding - a DEATH panel?! Holy cow, it's amazing how willing people are to believe lies that originate in their own skull. "No questioning needed; if it wasn't true, I wouldn't have let it out of my mouth" Yeesh...
Some of you actually follow Doonesbury? Why should that surprise me.
CasualBrowser said... "Um, in regards to the cartoon anonymous linked to, what the hell was that supposed to be???"
I assume you do not actually follow politics. You are not aware of just a few of the liberal moves against the folks at the townhall meetings concerning the healthcare bill.
Snitch central, SEIU union thugs, the term astroturfing? Perhaps you should have one of your "progressive" friends explain the Democrats plan in conjunction with the "government run media" to squash the conservative's right to have their voices heard concerning socialized medicine.
Funny think - Palin never mentions we already have Death Panels. They're called "private insurance companies" and they deny care to Americans all the time.
Pop quiz, anonymous: Between Mallard and Doonesbury:
(1) Which strip regularly follows the ongoing concerns of war veterans, and which strip only occasionally pays lip service to their (unseen) presence in order to bolster the author's false patriotism or to attack "them?"
(2) Which strip presents characters---that is, participants with actual individual characterists--and which strip relies on false stereotypes out of sheer laziness?
(3) Which strip portrays people on both sides of the aisle as human, and which strip portrays "them" exclusively as idiots and monsters (except when one close to the author dies), in spite of the fact that the author purports to be married to one of "them?"
P.S. We still remember Free Speech Zones, asshole. Don't you dare lecture us about bullying tactics.
I see everything Anonytroll says, from the "government run media" line to the lies about SEIU, comes straight from his big fat idiot of an Oxy-moronic lord and master.
Tell us, Anonytroll, do you fantasize about being a boy prostitute in the Dominican Republic pleasuring Herr Lardbutt? When he says, as he so often does, "bend over and grab your ankles", do you wish you were doing so in front of him after he's been made ready, in the only way he can be made ready, with Viagra from a "borrowed" prescription?
Does that make the nights pass a little more cheerfully in your mom's basement?
Also, of Doonesbury and Mallard Fillmore, which one regularly gets collected in book format...and which one hasn't been in thirteen years? That's right--free market sez Trudeau is talented and Tinsley sucks ass. Gotta problem with capitalism, ya little twerp?
Disrupting town halls by chanting "hear our voice" so loudly that no discussion can take place is not going to get their actual voice on the process heard.
Not to mention they aren't a majority. And they must know it because they are purposely doing things to give the illusion a a majority.
And we have why most scientists won't identify republican anymore.
Is this one of those crossover strips, where Tinsley draws "B.C," and The Estate of Johnny Hart draws an installment of "Mallard Failmore" in response?
I hope the other strip was a 9-panel layout of Fat Broad clubbing an alternately black and green waterfowl to death and then gnawing at its carcass. Stay away from the duck liver, though -- cheap bourbon leaves behind a lot of impurities.
Anonymous, but not that rightwing loon troll above
said...
@exanonymous It's too bad, I'd like to see some real, reasoned, rational debate. But the GOP has long since abandoned reason and rationality. Shouting and disruption? Is it a political party, or a 3 year old throwing a tantrum in the aisles of Toys R Us?
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The dinosaur who lived millions of years BC is a Presbyterian? Hey Tinz, stop muscling in on Zombie Johnny Hart's territory!
Eh, neocons equate religion and science. No surprise there. Both can be tedious and boring, so it's understandable that those with a short attention span think they amount to the same thing. Quantum mechanics introduced in a simplified form sounds as crazy as anything religion can come up with.
But man-made global warming scientists are not taking things on faith. They are continuing to monitor and do research, create models, and search for evidence for and against. But MF wouldn't know of them or hear of them because they quietly publish rather boring results in science journals circulated among scientists.
It's been said before, but Ozone Depletion =/= Global Warming.
http://people-press.org/report/528/
To me it is appalling that so many identify democratic or independent-leaning democrat, since it demonstrates a huge failure on the part of conservatism when it cannot appeal to logical and methodical people. Appalling because it cannot then hold equal ground in any debate.
It is absolutely CRITICAL to have doubters and every scientist knows this. However, those doubters must then engage in legitimate and thorough research, not just make a fuss, sign petitions, and hate Al Gore.
Timmer's point is worth re-emphasizing. Tinkley and his yahoo compatriats don't know the difference between global warming and ozone depletion.
You can't even have a conversation wiith them.
At least he's not a young-earth creationist, I suppose.
The Presbyterian Church believes global warming is serious and we should stop it.
Discovering this took one google search, leaving 89.95 hours this week for drinking!
1) He's using dinosaurs, an entire extinct superorder of animals, as an argument *against* the impact of climate change.
2) He's conflating the ozone layer depletion with greenhouse gasses. The *later* is due to burning fossil fuels. Ozone holes are due to CFCs and similar chemical compounds.
Tinsley, in your 80 hours of weekly research, try hitting Wikipedia some time.
3) A giant one-panel Sunday comic with *minimal* detail - I'm guessing this took 20 minutes tops. Maybe 30 with lettering.
Ducky is right, believing a 2000 year old story book is exactly the same as peer-reviewed studies.
Allow me to take Ducky's little metaphor here, and apply it to a different situation, to which I hope to emphasize how dumb it is.
"Bob and I have different ideas about buying groceries. I think we should get more vegetables and fresh baked goods, and he think the Giants are going to win the Superbowl this year."
When you have a Presbyterian dinosaur, it's time to pick a new metaphor.
Does he get it right? Exactly!
Man, if Muir's not the biggest cynic in the world, laughing at his audience, his studio must smell of urine and despair, plus whatever the magazines he uses for research smell like by now.
WV: "glial" -- if you want 'glacial,' add AC.
Um, in regards to the cartoon anonymous linked to, what the hell was that supposed to be???
OK, I know it's off topic, but did anyone see the Palin quote on the Doonesbury page at Slate? She's got to be kidding - a DEATH panel?! Holy cow, it's amazing how willing people are to believe lies that originate in their own skull. "No questioning needed; if it wasn't true, I wouldn't have let it out of my mouth" Yeesh...
Some of you actually follow Doonesbury? Why should that surprise me.
CasualBrowser said...
"Um, in regards to the cartoon anonymous linked to, what the hell was that supposed to be???"
I assume you do not actually follow politics. You are not aware of just a few of the liberal moves against the folks at the townhall meetings concerning the healthcare bill.
Snitch central, SEIU union thugs, the term astroturfing? Perhaps you should have one of your "progressive" friends explain the Democrats plan in conjunction with the "government run media" to squash the conservative's right to have their voices heard concerning socialized medicine.
Funny think - Palin never mentions we already have Death Panels. They're called "private insurance companies" and they deny care to Americans all the time.
Pop quiz, anonymous: Between Mallard and Doonesbury:
(1) Which strip regularly follows the ongoing concerns of war veterans, and which strip only occasionally pays lip service to their (unseen) presence in order to bolster the author's false patriotism or to attack "them?"
(2) Which strip presents characters---that is, participants with actual individual characterists--and which strip relies on false stereotypes out of sheer laziness?
(3) Which strip portrays people on both sides of the aisle as human, and which strip portrays "them" exclusively as idiots and monsters (except when one close to the author dies), in spite of the fact that the author purports to be married to one of "them?"
P.S. We still remember Free Speech Zones, asshole. Don't you dare lecture us about bullying tactics.
I see everything Anonytroll says, from the "government run media" line to the lies about SEIU, comes straight from his big fat idiot of an Oxy-moronic lord and master.
Tell us, Anonytroll, do you fantasize about being a boy prostitute in the Dominican Republic pleasuring Herr Lardbutt? When he says, as he so often does, "bend over and grab your ankles", do you wish you were doing so in front of him after he's been made ready, in the only way he can be made ready, with Viagra from a "borrowed" prescription?
Does that make the nights pass a little more cheerfully in your mom's basement?
Also, of Doonesbury and Mallard Fillmore, which one regularly gets collected in book format...and which one hasn't been in thirteen years? That's right--free market sez Trudeau is talented and Tinsley sucks ass. Gotta problem with capitalism, ya little twerp?
I belive Rachel Maddow had it right:
Disrupting town halls by chanting "hear our voice" so loudly that no discussion can take place is not going to get their actual voice on the process heard.
Not to mention they aren't a majority. And they must know it because they are purposely doing things to give the illusion a a majority.
And we have why most scientists won't identify republican anymore.
Troll wins!
No, Michael, not really. See, he's a troll. That's an automatic loss.
Is this one of those crossover strips, where Tinsley draws "B.C," and The Estate of Johnny Hart draws an installment of "Mallard Failmore" in response?
I hope the other strip was a 9-panel layout of Fat Broad clubbing an alternately black and green waterfowl to death and then gnawing at its carcass. Stay away from the duck liver, though -- cheap bourbon leaves behind a lot of impurities.
glial cells are exactly what's going wrong with Tinsley.
wv: oencyche A tumor that destroys glial cells and causes spasmodic motions near paper, especially if holding a pencil. Also gives you Tourette's.
@exanonymous
It's too bad, I'd like to see some real, reasoned, rational debate. But the GOP has long since abandoned reason and rationality. Shouting and disruption? Is it a political party, or a 3 year old throwing a tantrum in the aisles of Toys R Us?
@Anonymous b.n.t.r.t:
You're off by one year. It is Republicans and TWO-year-olds whose favorite words are "Mine!" and "No!".
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