I have absolutely no idea what this has to do with anything at all. But Mallard is pretty sensitive about the Astroturf nature of the teabaggers and the health care mobs.
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It's portraying the hate-spewing lunatics as average, normal, well-behaved citizens. Which is either a blatant lie, or deciding that it's average and normal to carry assault weapons and use racial slurs and invoking Hitler at town hall meetings.
But remember, children, not all protesters are good. Like all those anti-war protesters who lined up in the millions to prevent the Iraqi war. They were unpatriotic and evil. They didn't even bring guns!
"It's portraying the hate-spewing lunatics as average, normal, well-behaved citizens."
No, it's portraying them as utterly harmless, worried grammas...you know, the ones Obama is secretly plotting to have executed by Nazi death panels!! Boooooo!
Not very surprising, coming as it does from Bruce Tinsley, Fearless And Sober Champion Of Truth, and the party of Jeff Gannon, Wholesome Family-Values Man And Independent Journalist.
(I'm glad we're back to Death Panels, because the subject of health care reform draws a lot more amusingly loony trolls than do Tin's "I HAET SKULE SHTSUX" strips.)
From this: http://chattahbox.com/us/2009/08/26/abortion-foe-terry-randall-ejected-from-dem-town-hall/
"Terry’s colleagues put on a skit with a man in an Obama mask pretending to whip a bloodied woman, who kept saying, 'Massa, don’t hit me no more. I got the money to kill the babies.' Terry himself dressed in a doctor’s lab coat and pretended to stab a woman in a gray wig. 'There’s no way to pay for this thing without killing granny,' Terry explained."
In a drunken stupor (i.e., awake, Tinshley forgot to include panel 2):
Howard: HITLERBAMACARE COMMIES! JEWS ARE NAZIS! GET YOUR GUMMINT HANDS OFF MY MEDICARE! WHERE'S MY GUN? N****R! N****R!
Oh, and good thing gramma's eyes in Panel 1 are closed, or we'd see the Lovecraftian-horrible million-yard stare that every one of these wingnut deather meeting-disruptors seem to have.
I'm not sure who is meant to have used the phrase "rabid hate-spewing anti-healthcare reform mob," but it sure doesn't turn up in a google search (maybe it will now!). The dialogue in this comic makes no sense, of course, but that's not the point; the point is to provide Tinsley with yet another example to vomit out his highly ranged, hinged talking points. Might as well just have a close-up of Mallard, bloodshot eyes and all, shrieking directly at the viewer. Who needs this set-up nonsense? Tinsley sure doesn't! It's like porn in that regard. Really, really bad porn.
Wouldn't it be nice if there actually was reasonable debate?
It might actually exist, but there's no lack of footage of idiots, mobs, shouting, racism, threats, and just plain weirdness (I saw the Colbert report with people saying the Pledge of Allegiance to drown out opposition.)
Everybody else is a hate-spewing, moronic lunatic, while we're open-minded and intelligent. Yup, that's how to have constructive discourse. No irony here, move along.
This comic totally works, because old people can't be full of hate! None of us white people have racist grandparents. Seniors don't even complain disproportionately at restaurants!
Actually, Anonycoward, most people aren't that way. Just because you and the rest of your militia are that way, don't assume you're representative of the general populace.
@Anonymous If you want to have constructive discourse, leave the guns at home, and try using rational arguments instead of screaming Nazi, Hitler, Socialist, Communist, Facist. Use facts instead of scare tactics about death panels euthanizing grandma. Otherwise, it is more productive to talk to a dinner table. You can't behave like a hate-filled lunatic, then whine "Waaah! Everyone's writing me off as a hate-filled lunatic! I was trying to have a constructive dialogue and debate! My gun and I had some constructive things to say about socialist Nazi death panels!"
No one can ever truly love you if you are the ringleader of a rabid, hate-spewing anti health care reform mob, because you are not smart enough to be valued as a human being. Also, your husband drew a Hitler mustache on you as you slept.
Across the street from my post office was an old man, seated with a "No Rationing!" sign, two old lady with similar signs, and a middle-aged guy with a "No Communism!" sign.
I asked the old man respectfully what he wanted, and he said he didn't want the government to take over health care. I asked if he was on medicare, and he said yes but he just didn't want the government to take over health care. He had his line down solid.
One old lady had obviously had skin cancer. She told me proudly that she had won every appeal with her insurance company but you couldn't appeal government health care.
The other old lady told me everyone could get health care just by going to a hospital. I asked about cancer and diabetes; were they treated in ERs? No, she said, of course not. There were always charities to pay for that.
The old ladies started chanting "Freedom! Freedom!". The middle-aged man (who was obviously their Comissar) said, "Let's go. Don't pay attention to a dog barking." and the ladies went off, leaving the old man to protest against the very system that was keeping him alive.
On an intellectual level, there was no discussion because they could not admit simple facts. It was entirely an emotional discussion, comparable to debating the Yankees vs. the Red Sox, or Miller vs. Miller Lite. The old man, after all, was in a spot. I was someone who drifted into his life for a moment, but was gone. The old ladies, OTOH, were his ride home.
How could he possibly agree with me?
The emotional argument was all that mattered. So, very well, let us make one thing very clear: "We fight for health care for Teabaggers too!"
Teabaggers don't have to be alone. We're on their side, fighting so they won't have to die for lack of health care.
And I'd like to go on record as stating that it takes a certain amount of gall to try and say that when "we" (being liberals, we obviously control all the media) refer to nutjobs spewing hate at these rallies, we're OBVIOUSLY referring to EVERYONE who opposes the healthcare plan, even those who don't spread lies and bring AR-15's to rallies. Clearly.
Also clearly the news only seems to show the extremes of both sides because of a hidden agenda, and not because people screaming and carrying guns will get better ratings than the opinions of 68-year old farmers from Missouri.
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It's portraying the hate-spewing lunatics as average, normal, well-behaved citizens. Which is either a blatant lie, or deciding that it's average and normal to carry assault weapons and use racial slurs and invoking Hitler at town hall meetings.
But remember, children, not all protesters are good. Like all those anti-war protesters who lined up in the millions to prevent the Iraqi war. They were unpatriotic and evil. They didn't even bring guns!
"It's portraying the hate-spewing lunatics as average, normal, well-behaved citizens."
No, it's portraying them as utterly harmless, worried grammas...you know, the ones Obama is secretly plotting to have executed by Nazi death panels!! Boooooo!
Not very surprising, coming as it does from Bruce Tinsley, Fearless And Sober Champion Of Truth, and the party of Jeff Gannon, Wholesome Family-Values Man And Independent Journalist.
(I'm glad we're back to Death Panels, because the subject of health care reform draws a lot more amusingly loony trolls than do Tin's "I HAET SKULE SHTSUX" strips.)
From this: http://chattahbox.com/us/2009/08/26/abortion-foe-terry-randall-ejected-from-dem-town-hall/
"Terry’s colleagues put on a skit with a man in an Obama mask pretending to whip a bloodied woman, who kept saying, 'Massa, don’t hit me no more. I got the money to kill the babies.' Terry himself dressed in a doctor’s lab coat and pretended to stab a woman in a gray wig. 'There’s no way to pay for this thing without killing granny,' Terry explained."
Yep. Totally sane, normal, average citizens.
Well, she does appear of about the right age to be schlepping a "Keep your gummint hands off my medicare" sign.
In a drunken stupor (i.e., awake, Tinshley forgot to include panel 2):
Howard: HITLERBAMACARE COMMIES! JEWS ARE NAZIS! GET YOUR GUMMINT HANDS OFF MY MEDICARE! WHERE'S MY GUN? N****R! N****R!
Oh, and good thing gramma's eyes in Panel 1 are closed, or we'd see the Lovecraftian-horrible million-yard stare that every one of these wingnut deather meeting-disruptors seem to have.
On the other hand, though, Tinkley has captured the look and feel of the prototypical Repugnicant in Howard's slack-jawed, vacuous-eyed slouch.
I'm not sure who is meant to have used the phrase "rabid hate-spewing anti-healthcare reform mob," but it sure doesn't turn up in a google search (maybe it will now!). The dialogue in this comic makes no sense, of course, but that's not the point; the point is to provide Tinsley with yet another example to vomit out his highly ranged, hinged talking points. Might as well just have a close-up of Mallard, bloodshot eyes and all, shrieking directly at the viewer. Who needs this set-up nonsense? Tinsley sure doesn't! It's like porn in that regard. Really, really bad porn.
But she's OLD! Look at her! How could she be a noxious and mal-informed propagandist for the status quo, when she's so... OLD?
HT - thanks for the link. Firedoglake has video and a kinda of hilarious commentary
Wouldn't it be nice if there actually was reasonable debate?
It might actually exist, but there's no lack of footage of idiots, mobs, shouting, racism, threats, and just plain weirdness (I saw the Colbert report with people saying the Pledge of Allegiance to drown out opposition.)
Everybody else is a hate-spewing, moronic lunatic, while we're open-minded and intelligent. Yup, that's how to have constructive discourse.
No irony here, move along.
This comic totally works, because old people can't be full of hate! None of us white people have racist grandparents. Seniors don't even complain disproportionately at restaurants!
Actually, Anonycoward, most people aren't that way. Just because you and the rest of your militia are that way, don't assume you're representative of the general populace.
@Anonymous
If you want to have constructive discourse, leave the guns at home, and try using rational arguments instead of screaming Nazi, Hitler, Socialist, Communist, Facist. Use facts instead of scare tactics about death panels euthanizing grandma. Otherwise, it is more productive to talk to a dinner table. You can't behave like a hate-filled lunatic, then whine "Waaah! Everyone's writing me off as a hate-filled lunatic! I was trying to have a constructive dialogue and debate! My gun and I had some constructive things to say about socialist Nazi death panels!"
If this were a soccer match, the cartoonist would get a yellow card.
No one can ever truly love you if you are the ringleader of a rabid, hate-spewing anti health care reform mob, because you are not smart enough to be valued as a human being. Also, your husband drew a Hitler mustache on you as you slept.
Hahaha, she does have a Hitler mustache!!
Across the street from my post office was an old man, seated with a "No Rationing!" sign, two old lady with similar signs, and a middle-aged guy with a "No Communism!" sign.
I asked the old man respectfully what he wanted, and he said he didn't want the government to take over health care. I asked if he was on medicare, and he said yes but he just didn't want the government to take over health care. He had his line down solid.
One old lady had obviously had skin cancer. She told me proudly that she had won every appeal with her insurance company but you couldn't appeal government health care.
The other old lady told me everyone could get health care just by going to a hospital. I asked about cancer and diabetes; were they treated in ERs? No, she said, of course not. There were always charities to pay for that.
The old ladies started chanting "Freedom! Freedom!". The middle-aged man (who was obviously their Comissar) said, "Let's go. Don't pay attention to a dog barking." and the ladies went off, leaving the old man to protest against the very system that was keeping him alive.
On an intellectual level, there was no discussion because they could not admit simple facts. It was entirely an emotional discussion, comparable to debating the Yankees vs. the Red Sox, or Miller vs. Miller Lite. The old man, after all, was in a spot. I was someone who drifted into his life for a moment, but was gone. The old ladies, OTOH, were his ride home.
How could he possibly agree with me?
The emotional argument was all that mattered. So, very well, let us make one thing very clear:
"We fight for health care for Teabaggers too!"
Teabaggers don't have to be alone. We're on their side, fighting so they won't have to die for lack of health care.
Well stated, rewinn.
And I'd like to go on record as stating that it takes a certain amount of gall to try and say that when "we" (being liberals, we obviously control all the media) refer to nutjobs spewing hate at these rallies, we're OBVIOUSLY referring to EVERYONE who opposes the healthcare plan, even those who don't spread lies and bring AR-15's to rallies. Clearly.
Also clearly the news only seems to show the extremes of both sides because of a hidden agenda, and not because people screaming and carrying guns will get better ratings than the opinions of 68-year old farmers from Missouri.
Clearly.
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