Jefferson was presumably talking about the unfair tariffs imposed by the British; Tinsley is saying that he does not want his money to be taxed because the tax might go to charity.
Since when is being against government waste a "right-wing" virtue? Considering the "right-wingers" have gotten us into this economic mess we're in -- partially by wasting $1 trillion in Iraq under the pretense of taking care of us -- that's a pretty hard sell.
Does Batshit think EVERYTHING to come out of TJ's mouth or mind is to be treated as Word of God?
Because, you know, THIS.
Wikipedia: "Thomas Jefferson...had a 5,000-acre plantation and owned hundreds of slaves during his lifetime. He relied on slavery to support his family's lifestyle. Jefferson's contemporary racial views that African Americans were inferior to whites and needed supervision were rationalized into his Enlightenment ideals that condemned slavery."
All with citations, BTW. REAL sources, not the sort of crap Batshit relies on.
(Side note: Of course, TJ also had his "shadow family." He's a perfect example of someone who can have an interracial relationship, some good ideas (in the midst of a collective), and still be a racist asshole.
Happy Firecracker Day, Batshit! Hope you don't blow any fingers off!
Any one want to take bets of what Tins' stance on Star Wars was?
Of course, it comes down to what one considers 'wasteful'. Since the founders more or less went out of their way to not create a standing army, I think we all know what's on the top of THAT list, eh? I mean, if you really want to play this game.
I know, I know, you think that wasteful spending in useless things like the post office, and medical care for children, and cops who pull over honest Americans JUST cause they're technically drunk.
BTW: Today is a national holiday in the United States. Happy Independence Day, lovers of peace, freedom and democracy!!!!
Mallard and his ilk aren't celebrating it. If you are pro-secession then you are anti-United States. Feel free to choose one or the other, but anyone who waves the Confederate Flag or refuses to condemn it, cannot celebrate the 4th.
Legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property. Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions or property in geometrical progression as they rise. Whenever there are in any country uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural right.
Jefferson to Madison, 1785
It has been pretended by some, (and in England especially,) that inventors have a natural and exclusive right to their inventions, and not merely for their own lives, but inheritable to their heirs. But while it is a moot question whether the origin of any kind of property is derived from nature at all, it would be singular to admit a natural and even an hereditary right to inventors. It is agreed by those who have seriously considered the subject, that no individual has, of natural right, a separate property in an acre of land, for instance. By an universal law, indeed, whatever, whether fixed or movable, belongs to all men equally and in common, is the property for the moment of him who occupies it, but when he relinquishes the occupation, the property goes with it. Stable ownership is the gift of social law, and is given late in the progress of society. Jefferson to Isaac McPherson, 1813
I hope we shall take warning from the example and crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
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Jefferson was presumably talking about the unfair tariffs imposed by the British; Tinsley is saying that he does not want his money to be taxed because the tax might go to charity.
Since when is being against government waste a "right-wing" virtue? Considering the "right-wingers" have gotten us into this economic mess we're in -- partially by wasting $1 trillion in Iraq under the pretense of taking care of us -- that's a pretty hard sell.
By the way, here is the full context of the quote. Slightly misquoted, but I'll cut him some slack.
Does Batshit think EVERYTHING to come out of TJ's mouth or mind is to be treated as Word of God?
Because, you know, THIS.
Wikipedia: "Thomas Jefferson...had a 5,000-acre plantation and owned hundreds of slaves during his lifetime. He relied on slavery to support his family's lifestyle. Jefferson's contemporary racial views that African Americans were inferior to whites and needed supervision were rationalized into his Enlightenment ideals that condemned slavery."
All with citations, BTW. REAL sources, not the sort of crap Batshit relies on.
(Side note: Of course, TJ also had his "shadow family." He's a perfect example of someone who can have an interracial relationship, some good ideas (in the midst of a collective), and still be a racist asshole.
Happy Firecracker Day, Batshit! Hope you don't blow any fingers off!
I'm with Deepbeep. I don't actually disagree with the statement, and I wasn't aware that it was one political side.
If Mallard applied any deep thought, he'd realize that people have actual different definitions of what constitutes a waste of money.
Glad to see another straw man enjoying the holiday!
Any one want to take bets of what Tins' stance on Star Wars was?
Of course, it comes down to what one considers 'wasteful'. Since the founders more or less went out of their way to not create a standing army, I think we all know what's on the top of THAT list, eh? I mean, if you really want to play this game.
I know, I know, you think that wasteful spending in useless things like the post office, and medical care for children, and cops who pull over honest Americans JUST cause they're technically drunk.
Ah, quote mining! Jefferson also had some pretty harsh quotes about Christianity and corporations that would have Tinny screaming "GODLESS SOCIALIST!"
So would TJ be for or against tax expenditures for private jets?
Cuz it sure does look to me that Mallard Fillmore is on the anti-TJ side.
BTW: Today is a national holiday in the United States. Happy Independence Day, lovers of peace, freedom and democracy!!!!
Mallard and his ilk aren't celebrating it. If you are pro-secession then you are anti-United States. Feel free to choose one or the other, but anyone who waves the Confederate Flag or refuses to condemn it, cannot celebrate the 4th.
One more comment: in 1798 Founding Father John Admas signed a mandatory health insurance law.
That was the REAL founding father, not his son John Quincy Adams.
Happy Independence Day - we're still fighting John Adams' fight!
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.'
-Thomas Jefferson
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson
Experience demands that man is the only animal which devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor.
-Thomas Jefferson
This is fun!
Bruce Tinsley celebrates our nation's sovereignty by insulting it. What a creep.
Say, do you think Jefferson bedded Sally Hemmings... with his penischin?
Legislators cannot invent too
many devices for subdividing
property. Another means of
silently lessening the inequality of property is
to exempt all from taxation below a certain
point, and to tax the higher portions or
property in geometrical progression as they
rise. Whenever there are in any country
uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is
clear that the laws of property have been so
far extended as to violate natural right.
Jefferson to Madison, 1785
It has been pretended by some, (and in England
especially,) that inventors have a natural and
exclusive right to their inventions, and not
merely for their own lives, but inheritable to
their heirs. But while it is a moot question
whether the origin of any kind of property is
derived from nature at all, it would be
singular to admit a natural and even an
hereditary right to inventors. It is agreed by
those who have seriously considered the
subject, that no individual has, of natural
right, a separate property in an acre of land,
for instance. By an universal law, indeed,
whatever, whether fixed or movable, belongs
to all men equally and in common, is the
property for the moment of him who occupies
it, but when he relinquishes the occupation,
the property goes with it. Stable ownership is
the gift of social law, and is given late in
the progress of society.
Jefferson to Isaac McPherson, 1813
I hope we shall take warning from the example
and crush in its birth the aristocracy of our
monied corporations, which dare already to
challenge our government to a trial of
strength and bid defiance to the laws of our
country.
Thomas Jefferson to George Logan, 1816
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