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Saturday, December 15, 2012

That damned Dilemma

What's Mallard raving about today?

Obama Care, Small Business

If you're so stupid as to believe what you just said about Obamacare, Ms. Small Business Owner, then, yes, I would get out while you can.


Borborygmy said...

Let us say, for the sake of argument, that the new healthcare policies increase business costs across the board. It will increase them for everybody, won't it Ms. Small Business Owner? You and all your competitors. So everybody raises prices about the same, and if people still need whatever your selling, they will buy it, and your profit margin remains. Hopefully, since everyone has health insurance now, they will have more money to spend. -- Yep, better quit now.

Dir said...

Yeah, this presentation sounds pretty legit and well-thought out. Thank god MF is here to bring objective truth into the world of news reporting, which has so very much taken a turn into hysterical sensationalism.

Fuck you, asshole.

Tog said...

Can anyone, left or right, tell me what small-business-destroying component of Obamacare sets it apart from the health care plan Romney and other Republicans were flogging until it got co-opted by the Democrats?

Neo Tuxedo said...

Can anyone, left or right, tell me what small-business-destroying component of Obamacare sets it apart from the health care plan Romney and other Republicans were flogging until it got co-opted by the Democrats?

As you can now see, the question answers itself.

Kip W [Muffaroo] said...

Straw person! Anybody this stupid is already giving everything they own away in anticipation of the Mayan apocalypse anyway.

Randy Winn said...

Business profits are at record levels today but wages and benefits are flat.

If a business can't share a little bit of that profit getting health care to the workers who make that profit, they should get out of the way of better businesses that can.

CW in LA said...

Guess B-Tinsh has decided there's no need to Speak Truth To Powers when lies are much more in keeping with his agenda.

Anonymous said...

The author of this blog and his followers really do not comprehend what Obamacare has already and will continue to do to the country.

They don't understand Obamacare. When their premiums per year double or their employer decides to drop their health care because of the higher cost and pay the penalty… or 'tax' as John Roberts rewrote the law… which will be cheaper than the higher premiums...and let the employees fend for themselves perhaps it will sink in.

Of course many of the liberals believe the employer should absorb the added cost and not make as much profit as some do. Businesses are in business to make money. Why does this upset the liberals?

The unemployment rate will rise, the economy will not improve and the businesses will not spend their money to grow their business while Barack Hussein Obama is the president.

Note to Dir...your last sentence of your comment was very classy. You do have a very limited vocabulary.

Neo Tuxedo said...

Dear anonymous coward, with all the respect you're actually due, I can employ that Usenet classic, the

I took exception to your recent _X_ post to _Duck and Cover_.

It was (check all that apply):

_X_ lame.
_X_ stupid.
_X_ boring.
_X_ much longer than any worthwhile thought of which you may be capable.

Your attention is drawn to the fact that:

_X_ what you posted/said has been done before.


_X_ You have greatly misunderstood the purpose of _Duck and Cover_.
_X_ You are a loser.
_X_ You must have spent your entire life in a skinner box to be this clueless.
_X_ It is recommended that you:
_X_ get a clue (hey, they're cheap!)

Randy Winn said...

Anonymous Coward wins the "stupid remark of the month" award.

The only reason premiums would rise is because insurers are now being required to actually pay for health care, instead of providing sham policies. Naturally it costs more to provide an actual product instead of an empty box, but the consumer gets more so the economic effect is positive to the consumer.

Employers who choose to drop coverage lose the tax benefits of providing sham policies, which is a benefit for everyone: taxpayers stop subsidizing sham policies, and the money previously spent on sham policies are now available for increasing worker pay. Workers can then use exchanges to buy actual policies.

Roberts did not "rewrite" the law as a "tax"; he found authority for the law in the constitution's taxing power. This is a distinction you would need to understand to pass a high school civics course.

Liberals are not upset that businesses make money; in fact, on the record, liberals are better at free market economics than today's "conservatives". Look, for example, at the free market sales of Doonesbury's books vs. Brews Tinslhey's books.

Anonymous Coward hides his identity because it's the only way to keep the entire planet from laughing at him.

Kip W [Muffaroo] said...

Foolish liberals think you can work harder or make a better product and earn more money. Smart conservatives know once you have some small success, you use some of the money to buy favorable legislation and shut out the competition and the rest for lavish bonuses for top management.