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Friday, May 06, 2011

That damned Trump

What's Mallard raving about today?

Donald Trump, President Obama.

Nice work, Mallard. In the meantime, Donald Trump is rapidly becoming a punchline while President Obama accomplished the ultimate in substance over style.


Anonymous said...

"The ultimate in substance over style" - I never heard murder of an unarmed man described like that, but OK. Sounds more like a cheesy car ad though.

Frank Stone said...

Oooh, that two-week lead time is a real bitch today, isn't it, Brucie?

And Donald Trump? Way to pick those horses, guy. Remind me never to go to the racetrack with you.

WhatThe... said...

Anonymous has his talking points and is sticking to them.

Torture of unarmed men? Totally fine!

Killing of innocent civilians during military operations in the War on Terror? Stuff happens!

Killing the leader of a terrorist group which declared war on the United States during a military operation? Not cool!

We targeted and killed Yamamoto during WW2. I see no difference here.

CW in LA said...

Yes, WhatThe..., but you're completely missing the point: When that unpleasant other stuff happened, the White House was occupied by a Republican and a white guy, so that made it all not just okay but praiseworthy.

Should I break out the standard Rethug talking point from 2001-1/20/09 and ask if the president was supposed to serve bin Laden tea and crumpets?

Hard to shake the impression teabaggistanis like bin Laden better than President Obama.

Kip W said...

"Donald Trump's hair is so funny that Obama is a lying socialist foreigner!"

Humor is easy.

Tog said...

The latest teabagger tactic (trotted out by scumbag David Koch) is to bawl that Obama deserves no credit because he didn't actually participate; he merely gave the go-ahead. ...Which anyone could've done! (But as we all know, didn't *cough*ToraBora*cough*)

As a Talking Points Memo poster points out, by this "logic" Osama bin Laden was not responsible for 9-11 because he did not pilot one of the planes.

Maybe you should try that one out for size, Anon. It should fit nicely right up your ass, next to your head. Go ahead, claim OBL was an innocent victim.

Also at TPM: John "Torture? Otay!" Yoo is calling the execution of Osama bin Laden America's "greatest" national security loss because of all the secrets he must've taken to the grave with him (forget the huge intel gain from the hard drives taken from the scene--you just know OBL kept stuff in exclusively in his mind!).

Oh, watch the little rats scurry! So funny! And look, there goes Tinsley! (You can tell because it's the one that can't run in a straight line.)

This is less funny: On my breakroom TV, a FOXLies Commentator (didn't catch his name) dropped this little bit of hope-for-failure; "Well, we'll just see what happens on 9-11 this year."

Real nice, creep.
The GOP and its tools, ladies and gentlemen.

Bill the Splut said...

Pretty funny coming from one of the people who thought it was somehow relevant that Dubya was "the candidate you would most like to have a beer with"!

But Bruce would have a beer with bin Laden if Beard-Boy was paying.

rewinn said...

One week ago, if you had told me that Anonymous Coward and the rest of the reichwing would complain about the killing of Osama bin Ladn, I would have said you were overreacting. Surely, I would have written, you can't think that partisanship and hackery extends so far beyond the bounds of rationality and patriotism.

I would have been wrong about that. Anonymous Coward and the Fox News Bunch are indeed that far beyond rationality and patriotism. And we should welcome this, as it proves to all who are rational and/or patriotic precisely what we have been saying about the reichwing. So thank you, Anonymous Coward!

P.S. legally, Osama bin Ladn was the general of an army that had declared war on the United States, both in writing and in deed. I would have preferred that he be captured alive and given a fair trial for his many crimes, but under the laws of war, a soldier who is not a prisoner may be shot at will. bin Ladn has no magic immunity under the laws of war merely because he was not carrying a weapon.

P.S. Technically this was not murder. Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, but there has been no fact produced that tends to prove that this killing was unlawful. Had bin Ladn been taken a prisoner, then the rules change; you can't kill prisoners and you can't torture them - but you are not obligated to make them prisoners in the first place.

My money says that three weeks from now, Mallard is ignoring the whole Osama thing, just as he ignored the whole Iraq thing. But if he wants to leap to the defense of Osama bin Ladn, by all means Mr. Tinshley, please do as you wish. Our sacred First Amendment specifically allows you to cut your throat with your pencil.

DiR said...

Wow, so the right is actually going to defend bin Laden as the poor victim?
I can't even respond to that. We've passed the 88mph barrier of stupid. A quantum state of perpetually inverting stupid field is encompassing all and none of existence, coexisting with itself.

You know that line from Three Amigos, "It's like living with a six year old"? That's where I"m at most days.
Alternately, that scene in Babe, where the granddaughter throws a shitfit because Grandpa painstakingly crafted her a doll house by hand, and didn't just buy the one on TV she wanted.

Anonymous said...

Liberals...there really is more than one person who comments Anon on this so-called blog. Your Anon 'enemy' totally agrees that Bin Laden should have been "double tapped" by the best of the best, the SEAL team 6. (which is not really their code name) I have absolutely no problem with the shooting of Bin Laden. I suppose Rewinn wanted a civil trial on U.S. soil with the ACLU defending the scum bag who apparently gave the word to kill over 3000 of our fellow citizens? What a travesty that would have been.

What I don't agree with is that Obama did anything but take over 16hours to come to a decision to go with the mission. This is all the man did. He has been following all the procedures which George W. Bush put in place, and the left bitched about for six years, aside from 'waterboarding'. Current and former U.S. officials say that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, provided the nom de guerre of one of bin Laden's most trusted aides. The CIA got similar information from Mohammed's successor, Abu Faraj al-Libi. Both were subjected to harsh interrogation tactics inside CIA prisons in Poland and Romania. No torturing took place at Club Gitmo. Unless it was torture to put womens underwear on a few prisoners and than film them. Not too bright.

Again...Obama did nothing to earn the credit which the leftist MSM will run with all the way to the 2012 election. But, if the unemployment rate is at 9%, gas prices over $4.20 and the economy still in the tank, don't believe your boy is a lock for a second term. Also much can happen prior to the election. We could very well be hit again by Al Quada because many the 'Muslim Brotherhood' throughout the world are now highly pissed at Obama and the United States. I assume Obama made the call but I have seen stories that Panetta actually forced his hand.

Tog said...

Bawl harder, anon.

Yes, what a travesty that OBL might have been tried in accordance with America's long-established standards of justice; so much better that we reduce those standards to those of the very "Axis of Evil" wrong-wingers constantly bitch about, amirite? Become the enemy!

But it doesn't matter. Obama got him. Get over it.
Get over him.

CW in LA said...

Right, this is AnonyConcernTroll, not AnonyMelonFucker. ConcernTroll is less overtly racist and not quite as hopelessly inarticulate.

Both Anonycowards, of course, so desperately hate President Obama and any America that he presides over as to shit themselves with rage over any success of his. So it's not like they're that different.

DiR said...

All I see in that post is intense bitterness that this didn't happen under duby'alls watch.
Say, didn't McCain run partially on the platform that only he, McCain, had what it takes to find bin Laden, and certainly not that pantywaist, inexperienced, uppity cheerful guy?
That was a fun election. I heartily support the choice to run even CRAZIER people against Obama.

dlauthor said...

Seriously, reading Anonymous Coward's constant parroting of debunked Limbaughian talking points is kind of like that noticing one monkey at the zoo that's always masturbating. For a while it's amusing, then it's kind of sick, and finally you just feel sad for it and move on.

Actually, the whole right wing's like that these days. It's growing harder and harder to figure out how low and petty they're willing to get in their war on everything that makes people human. But I suppose, unfortunately, we'll see in time. We always do.

Frank Stone said...

DiR, right you are. This is what McCain said to Wolf Blitzer in 2008:

"I'm not going to telegraph a lot of the things that I'm going to do because then it might compromise our ability to do so. But, look, I know the area, I have been there, I know wars, I know how to win wars, and I know how to improve our capabilities so that we will capture Osama bin Laden -- or put it this way, bring him to justice…We will do it, I know how to do it."

No doubt McCain shared this secret information with Obama no later than January 21, 2009, and it was key to locating bin Laden. No doubt the only reason Obama hasn't heaped praise on McCain for his invaluable assistance is because Obama is such a shameless, uppit-- er, ARROGANT glory hog. No doubt it's only McCain's superhuman modesty that prevents him from claiming his rightful credit.

And if anyone believes that, I've got this bridge in Brooklyn I've been looking to unload. Dirt cheap. Any takers?

Tog said...

One does have to (almost) admire anon's diligence in regurgitating the dumb shit he's fed. Of particular note, however, is this:

"We could very well be hit again by Al Quada because many the 'Muslim Brotherhood' throughout the world are now highly pissed at Obama and the United States."


Further translation: Anon is hoping for another 9-11.

So, to recap the wrong wing's talking points:

(1) Obama didn't get OBL; All credit goes to Bush (who gave up on nailing OBL almost immediately but nevermind that now).

(2) Jimmy Carter is STILL responsible for Delta Force crashing helicopters in a sandstorm, and Bill Clinton? "Black Hawk Down." But Reagan can NEVER be held responsible for Iran-Contra OR Saddam's crimes, and it's NOT George & Dick's fault we blew our collective wad to Iraq so needlessly.

(3) Finally, Junior Bush can't be held responsible for dropping the ball on 9-11, but if there's another attack it's all on Obama!!

(4) The usual dogwhistles about Muslims.

WhatThe... said...

The lack of intellect on display by Anonymous Idiot is stunning...almost as stunning as the fact that he thinks he has a point to make.

President Obama took all of 16 hours to decide on the best course of action to kill OBL? And yet, OBL is dead. So what do those 16 hours matter, exactly? Are you saying someone is only dead if the decision was made quickly?

Killing OBL was always going to attract reprisals. Are you saying we should have left him alive because we're afraid of that? The Right Wing are now openly admitting to being surrender monkeys?

"I assume Obama made the call but I have seen stories that Panetta actually forced his hand."

I have seen stories that President Bush fucked goats repeatedly on the Resolute Desk from equally credible sources. What's your point?

CW in LA said...

Yeah, the 16 hours talking point is especially risible. Shrub waited 7+ years, but his apologists are still insisting he he's the one who should get the credit for this.

Kip W said...

Butthurt because we treat all anonymous cowards alike? It's probably easier to pick a name and stick with it than to spend the time whining about it.

rewinn said...

"I'm not that Anonymous Coward; I'm another Anonymous Coward".

LOL! hey, either way, Anonymous Coward is a coward. His ball-less opinion means nothing because he lack the courage to put his name to it.

Being such a coward seems like a sad, angry existence. I thank God that he has given me such a heart as will not allow ne such a fearful life.

P.S. As for my preference for trials, I stand with the patriots of the Judge Advocate General Corps of the Armed Forces of the United States who have ensured that those that they are ordered to give a legal defense are given that defense.

Personally, I think our Constitution is worth defending, as does our Armed Forces; Anonymous Coward doesn't. That's part of being a coward, I guess.

BTW only a very stupid person would think that bin Ladn would have a prayer of avoiding conviction in a fair trial. The evidence against him is pretty solid, e.g. confessions that he mailed to news outlets.